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发表于 2020-2-13 09:07:00 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
中國大陸總人口突破14億人, 為140005萬人. 這次肺炎死亡率不到百分之3.  那約是4200萬人.
死亡的大部分是過60歲的有病老人.  上次SARS沒有兒童死亡. 看來這次也是如此.
打敗肺炎死不去的話.  那是不是體內就有抵抗力了. 那乾脆就全民病, 那些復原活著的就是強者. 如果中國少了百分之3的人, 而且那些都是老人/病人/或身體健康不良的人會有大影響嗎?
我看大家就當肺炎為傷風咳嗽, 日常生活不改. 中國就是人多, 怕什麼呵!
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发表于 2020-2-13 11:01:07 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Nathan 于 2020-2-13 11:02 编辑

思路清奇。。。
目前是举全国之力对抗疫情,全国驰援湖北,才控制到当前水平。如果全国大爆发,生产、物流、后勤保障全部瘫痪,不是病死也是饿死。
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发表于 2020-2-13 23:51:49 | 显示全部楼层
很危险的思维
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发表于 2020-2-14 12:03:07 | 显示全部楼层
从人性的角度来讲,这个论断很不好啊。

政府和我们每个人花了那么大的代价来保证彼此的健康,

希望我们每个人都能活得对得起这个代价。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-2-14 14:39:55 | 显示全部楼层
這個病毒現時沒藥可治. 進入醫院和在家沒什麼分別. 醫院給的藥都是治標不治本. 康復是靠病人自己的抵抗力. 隔離只是防止傳染.

美國醫局, 醫生等都沒有說這肺炎會一定致命.

以下是一段美國對冦形肺炎的報導

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/ ... reak-latest-updates

A coronavirus is a kind of common virus that causes an infection in your nose, sinuses, or upper throat. Most coronaviruses aren't dangerous.

But In early 2020, after a December 2019 outbreak in China, the World Health Organization (WHO) identified a new type, 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), which can be fatal. The organization named the disease it causes COVID-19.

The outbreak quickly moved from China around the world. It spreads the same way other coronaviruses do: through person-to-person contact.

Symptoms can show up anywhere from 2 to 14 days after exposure. Early on, they're a lot like the common cold. You might notice:

Fever
Cough
Shortness of breath
Infections range from mild to serious. The virus can turn deadly if it leads to pneumonia, respiratory failure, or septic shock. Those most at risk of death are the elderly and people with weakened immune systems.

What Is a Coronavirus?
Coronaviruses were first identified in the 1960s, but we don't know where they come from. They get their name from their crown-like shape. Sometimes, but not often, a coronavirus can infect both animals and humans.

Most coronaviruses spread the same way other cold-causing viruses do: through infected people coughing and sneezing, by touching an infected person's hands or face, or by touching things such as doorknobs that infected people have touched.

Almost everyone gets a coronavirus infection at least once in their life, most likely as a young child. In the United States, coronaviruses are more common in the fall and winter, but anyone can come down with a coronavirus infection at any time.

Past severe coronavirus outbreaks include:

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS): About 858 people have died from MERS, which first appeared in Saudi Arabia and then in other countries in the Middle East, Africa, Asia, and Europe. In April 2014, the first American was hospitalized for MERS in Indiana and another case was reported in Florida. Both had just returned from Saudi Arabia. In May 2015, there was an outbreak of MERS in Korea, which was the largest outbreak outside of the Arabian Peninsula.
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS): In 2003, 774 people died from an outbreak. As of 2015, there were no further reports of cases of SARS.
Common Symptoms of Coronavirus
The symptoms of most coronaviruses are similar to any other upper respiratory infection, including runny nose, coughing, sore throat, and sometimes a fever. In most cases, you won't know whether you have a coronavirus or a different cold-causing virus, such as rhinovirus.

You could get lab tests, including nose and throat cultures and blood work, to find out whether your cold was caused by a coronavirus, but there's no reason to. The test results wouldn't change how you treat your symptoms, which typically go away in a few days.

But if a coronavirus infection spreads to the lower respiratory tract (your windpipe and your lungs), it can cause pneumonia, especially in older people, people with heart disease, or people with weakened immune systems.

What to Do About Coronavirus
There is no vaccine for coronavirus. To help prevent a coronavirus infection, do the same things you do to avoid the common cold:

Wash your hands thoroughly with soap and warm water or with an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.
Keep your hands and fingers away from your eyes, nose, and mouth.
Avoid close contact with people who are infected.
You treat a coronavirus infection the same way you treat a cold:

Get plenty of rest.
Drink fluids.
Take over-the-counter medicine for a sore throat and fever. But don't give aspirin to children or teens younger than 19; use ibuprofen or acetaminophen instead.
A humidifier or steamy shower can also help ease a sore and scratchy throat.

Even when a coronavirus causes MERS or SARS in other countries, the kind of coronavirus infection common in the U.S. isn't a serious threat for an otherwise healthy adult. If you get sick, treat your symptoms and contact a doctor if they get worse or don't go away.
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-2-14 14:45:40 | 显示全部楼层
以下是Google 翻譯

冠狀病毒是一種常見的病毒,會導致您的鼻子,鼻竇或上咽部感染。大多數冠狀病毒並不危險。

但是在2020年初,在中國於2019年12月爆發之後,世界衛生組織(WHO)確定了一種新型的2019年新型冠狀病毒(2019-nCoV),它可能致命。該組織將其命名為引起COVID-19的疾病。

疫情迅速從世界各地轉移到中國。它以與其他冠狀病毒相同的方式傳播:通過人與人之間的接觸。

暴露後2到14天,症狀可能會出現。早期,它們很像普通感冒。您可能會注意到:

發熱
咳嗽
呼吸急促
感染範圍從輕度到嚴重。如果導致肺炎,呼吸衰竭或敗血性休克,該病毒可能致命。死亡風險最高的是老年人和免疫系統較弱的人。

什麼是冠狀病毒?
冠狀病毒是在1960年代首次發現的,但我們不知道它們來自何處。他們從他們的冠狀形狀得到他們的名字。有時但不經常,冠狀病毒可以感染動物和人類。

大多數冠狀病毒的傳播方式與其他感冒病毒的傳播方式相同:通過被感染者咳嗽和打噴嚏,觸摸被感染者的手或臉,或觸摸被感染者觸摸過的東西(例如門把手)。

幾乎每個人一生中至少都會感染一次冠狀病毒,最有可能是小時候。在美國,冠狀病毒在秋季和冬季更為常見,但是任何人都可以隨時感染冠狀病毒。

過去嚴重的冠狀病毒爆發包括:

中東呼吸綜合症(MERS):大約858人死於MERS,該疾病首先出現在沙特阿拉伯,然後出現在中東,非洲,亞洲和歐洲的其他國家。 2014年4月,第一位美國人在印第安納州因MERS住院治療,而佛羅里達州報導了另一例。他們倆都剛從沙特阿拉伯回來。 2015年5月,韓國爆發了中東呼吸綜合徵,這是阿拉伯半島以外最大的一次暴發。
嚴重急性呼吸道綜合症(SARS):2003年,有774人死於疫情。截至2015年,沒有關於SARS病例的進一步報告。
冠狀病毒的常見症狀
大多數冠狀病毒的症狀與任何其他上呼吸道感染相似,包括流鼻涕,咳嗽,喉嚨痛,有時還發燒。在大多數情況下,您將不知道自己是否患有冠狀病毒或其他引起感冒的病毒,例如鼻病毒。

您可以進行實驗室測試,包括鼻子和喉嚨的培養以及血液檢查,以查明您的感冒是否是由冠狀病毒引起的,但沒有理由。測試結果不會改變您的症狀治療方式,通常幾天后症狀就會消失。

但是,如果冠狀病毒感染擴散至下呼吸道(您的氣管和肺部),則可能引起肺炎,尤其是在老年人,心髒病患者或免疫系統較弱的人群中。

冠狀病毒怎麼辦
沒有用于冠狀病毒的疫苗。為了幫助預防冠狀病毒感染,請執行與避免普通感冒相同的操作:

用肥皂和溫水或含酒精的洗手液徹底洗手。
保持手和手指遠離眼睛,鼻子和嘴巴。
避免與感染者密切接觸。
您可以像對待感冒一樣對待冠狀病毒感染:

得到充足的休息。
喝液體。
服用非處方藥以治療喉嚨痛和發燒。但是,請勿將阿司匹林用於19歲以下的兒童或青少年。請改用布洛芬或對乙酰氨基酚。
加濕器或蒸汽淋浴也可以幫助緩解喉嚨痛和發癢。

即使在其他國家或地區冠狀病毒引起MERS或SARS時,在美國常見的那種冠狀病毒感染也不會對健康成人造成嚴重威脅。如果您生病了,請治療症狀,如果症狀惡化或沒有消失,請聯繫醫生。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-2-15 04:03:51 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 scbb 于 2020-2-15 04:06 编辑

浙大一院96岁新冠肺炎患者治愈出院 或全国最高龄

https://zj.zjol.com.cn/news.html?id=1388200


96岁新冠肺炎患者治愈出院 这份“浙江方案”秘诀在哪里?

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